The Magic of Kifu

(;CA[UTF-8]SZ[19]AP[GOWrite:3.0.15]GM[1]FF[4]ST[2]DT[2016-04-29 ]WR[1p]FG[259:]EV[Grand Slam 2016]TM[9000]GN[Grand Slam 2016, round 2]C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: game started]KM[7.50]PM[2]OT[5x60 Byo-yomi ]PW[Artem Kachanovskyi]PC[The KGS Go Server at http\://www.gokgs.com/]RU[Chinese]RO[2]PB[Ilya Shikshin]RE[W+R ]BR[1p] ;B[pp] ;C[U \[?\]\: go artem!]W[dd] ;B[dq];W[qd] ;C[U \[?\]\: he played like a pro yesterday, i hope he can continue today and pull off the sorta-upset Ishii \[2k?\]\: I think those two had some rivaly some time right?]B[cf] ;W[fc];B[cl];W[jq];B[nq];W[gq];B[fp];W[fq] ;C[Artemy \[?\]\: Please tell me who plays?]B[eq] ;W[el];B[gp] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: you are white, shikshin is black]W[hp] ;B[em];W[dl];B[dm];W[ck] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem (w) vs Ilya (b)]B[cm] ;C[Artemy \[?\]\: Спасибо! \:))]W[ch] ;B[bk] ;C[Artemy \[?\]\: Thanks a lot!]W[ce] ;B[cj];W[df] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: there is a Livestream for board one\: https\://www.twitch.tv/grandslamboard1 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: General information about the GrandSlam\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/EuropeanGrandPrix/grandslam2016.html ulquiorra\: they play quite fast GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: I'll put the links into the Game-Commentary too lengjing \[2k\]\: standard fuseki I think lengjing \[2k\]\: no need to think GrandSlam3 \[-\]\: bord 1 broadcasted on https\://www.twitch.tv/Grandslamboard1 SIscurge \[5d\]\: o17 usuall as well? lengjing \[2k\]\: O17 not so usual maybe gorussia \[3k\]\: this game should be played in the final \:-( U \[?\]\: they wish too since theyd be guaranteed 5000 euro noodan \[2d\]\: this does not work\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/EuropeanGrandPrix/grandslam2016]B[nc] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: ok give me a second - I'll check that noodan \[2d\]\: oh noodan \[2d\]\: i forgot html GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: ^^ works for me]W[kd] ;B[qc];W[pc];B[pd];W[qb];B[rc];W[od];B[pe];W[oc];B[rb] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: have a links into the Game-Commentary? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: click options --> rules --> game comment]W[pg] ;B[of];W[nd] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: can you see it? lengjing \[2k\]\: yes thx GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: great]B[og] ;W[pi];B[qg] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: the both should as board 1. SIscurge \[5d\]\: this could have been the final lengjing \[2k\]\: is a little pitty lengjing \[2k\]\: too young talents U \[?\]\: yeah random draws suck sometimes btu they are most fair]W[rp] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: surprise move]B[ho] ;W[qq] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: r3? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: this is no missclick \;)]B[ip] ;W[hq];B[iq];W[ir] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: seems losemove.]B[jp] ;W[kr];B[fr];W[gs];B[kq];W[jr];B[lq];W[er];B[dr];W[es];B[ds] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 2h Ilya 2\:20h left]W[fs] ;B[qn] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: why not e1 atari,]W[pq] ;C[tymak \[-\]\: now i expect some light reduction....maybe N11 or similar kind of move lengjing \[2k\]\: white position is too slow I think SIscurge \[5d\]\: I bet on r12]B[oq] ;W[qo] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Ilya is pretty fast with his decisions on Artems moves lengjing \[2k\]\: blitz GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: he only used 10min so far GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: both are pretty concentrated though asdk \[3k\]\: u broadcast this board? asdk \[3k\]\: in twitch GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: no, only board one is broadcasted asdk \[3k\]\: ok, danke GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: the internet connection is too slow for more unfortunately lengjing \[2k\]\: wie heißt du? Grandslam 2?]B[po] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Mieke lengjing \[2k\]\: oh poiuytre\: r7 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: first time ilya has to think about a move more than 20sec \;) mafutrct \[-\]\: Wait, artem is pro? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: yep mafutrct \[-\]\: How come? \:o lalka\: He was strong enough. GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: xD GrandSlam3 \[-\]\: he won the tournament in Baden Baden mafutrct \[-\]\: the EGF pro qualifier of 2016? anton007 \[-\]\: yes GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/index.html?id=42 Uberdude \[3d\]\: that wall has so many cuts, i tihnk artem will like white here Hobbes \[1k\]\: I do like w here Hobbes \[1k\]\: solid points and a lot of trash stones that can actually become useful against b influence]W[pn] ;B[qm];W[on] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 1\:52h Ilya 2\:06h left]B[no] ;C[poiuytre\: b o5 misstake better q9]W[pl] ;B[ql];W[pk];B[qj];W[pj] ;C[Uberdude \[3d\]\: then how would you answer cut]B[qi] ;C[poiuytre\: b zond s2]W[mm] ;C[poiuytre\: ws3]B[rr] ;C[poiuytre\: s9]W[qk] ;B[qp];W[rq];B[ro] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: ehm poiuytre\: k16 SIscurge \[5d\]\: this is alive? pancake \[?\]\: yes SIscurge \[5d\]\: I thought p1 is some kind of suji pancake \[?\]\: p1 should be there already. SIscurge \[5d\]\: to s1 you play? pancake \[?\]\: yes SIscurge \[5d\]\: you play what if I s1 now? nero \[1k\]\: ko poiuytre\: w have big territory up k16 KS \[2k\]\: t4 for ko ben0 \[6d\]\: oh is this the legendary tesuji p1 coming soon ? \:D SIscurge \[5d\]\: but doesnt it just work? nero \[1k\]\: s9]W[sr] ;C[ben0 \[6d\]\: maybe the situation is a bit different in the original tsumego cause i see a ko here kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes, ko is in the air there SIscurge \[5d\]\: yes I also see that ko poiuytre\: w group live ko kissthesky \[2d\]\: "the men who saw that ko" SIscurge \[5d\]\: \:) nero \[1k\]\: like b now pollux1\: I think no ko\: s1 p2 o2 p1 then variations but no ko SIscurge \[5d\]\: ten r1? SIscurge \[5d\]\: still dead]B[rk] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: but no ko right \:-D SIscurge \[5d\]\: just dead pollux1\: r1 r2 pollux1\: what's the problem? SIscurge \[5d\]\: O1?]W[oh] ;B[pf];W[qh];B[rh];W[ph] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: "the men who saw the ko in no ko land" SIscurge \[5d\]\: its a snap back]B[rf] ;C[pollux1\: white can sacrifice p2 p1 and leave\: other eye at t4 OneMoveMan \[4d\]\: r1 q2? (miai o1 - t4? kissthesky \[2d\]\: I would attach G17 SIscurge \[5d\]\: well that could be cool, but its not possible no? SIscurge \[5d\]\: s1 p2 o2 p1 r1 r2 o1 nero \[1k\]\: k16 SIscurge \[5d\]\: aha but you are right SIscurge \[5d\]\: w can underconnect I didnt realize, so its alive pandalomo \[7k\]\: e9 ?]W[mh] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: or can he mhm poiuytre\: pollux1\: I think no ko\: s1 p2 o2 p1 no ko\: s1 p2 p1]B[ic] ;C[nero \[1k\]\: g17 poiuytre\: j17 misstake nj sabaki kissthesky \[2d\]\: J17 looks bad move Xavo \[?\]\: Artem won yesterday's game, right? SIscurge \[5d\]\: wow s1 p2 p1 poiuytre\: now b did not make sabaki kissthesky \[2d\]\: so only jump or F18 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: information about this event and Livestram of board 1 can be found here\: click options --> rules --> game comment nero \[1k\]\: j17 looks bad GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: @Xavo\: yes he won against Lukas Podpera by resignation Liso66 \[?\]\: "game comment" is empty for me... poiuytre\: g17 poiuytre\: h14 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: hmmm it shouldn't be empty \:/]W[kc] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes, game comment empty GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: darn xD GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: it show up for me xD anyhow I'll type it in here GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Livestream board 1\: https\://www.twitch.tv/grandslamboard1 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: GrandSlam Website\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/EuropeanGrandPrix/grandslam2016.html GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: GrandPrix Website\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/EuropeanGrandPrix/ kissthesky \[2d\]\: E18 is best move]B[gc] ;C[SIscurge \[5d\]\: I sent a message to a pro about s1 -_-, I am still not convinced lengjing \[2k\]\: which pro? Ohno \[?\]\: ah the prize money is quite serious radi \[3d\]\: h14? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Most of the players stand up and wander around all the time - at least more than yesterday. kissthesky \[2d\]\: D12?]W[fb] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: ahh]B[dg] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: yep, I haven't seen a player who resigned early yet - even if everyone was convinced it was over. I think they're not willing to give up on the prize mney too early - which would be quite natural of corse Ohno \[?\]\: yeah, but that's really nice Xavo \[?\]\: W is much thicker now. Go w! U \[?\]\: if anyone up to this point could have resigned early it was artem v lukan Ohno \[?\]\: good incentive for serious games lengjing \[2k\]\: is this a sign for stress? when they all wander]W[ef] ;C[Zonked \[3d\]\: lengjing, its good to wander if u have the time for it, give some times for your brain to rest lengjing \[2k\]\: I wander also very ofen in a tournement lengjing \[2k\]\: I deep agree]B[if] ;W[ih] ;C[Xavo \[?\]\: nice attack lengjing \[2k\]\: what is the function for the exchange d13? Hobbes \[1k\]\: I do also wonder a lot, usually because I lose quite soon Ohno \[?\]\: lol GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 1\:30h Ilya 1\:40h left lengjing \[2k\]\: in egc 2015 Liberec the first round after 4 hours have we both only 50 moves on the board lengjing \[2k\]\: then I lost quickly in byoyomi GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: \:'D 50 moves? and I thought I was a player that uses a lot of time pancake \[?\]\: EGC has too much thinking time. Especially for kyu players. lengjing \[2k\]\: I also think too much in fuseki, a bad habit, GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: no I think its quite nice to be able to think more than on usual tournaments GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: fuseki is quite important I think...well everythink is important...but if you start with a bad position you have to fight back all the time don't you think so?]B[kf] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: args all the missspelling ^^ pancake \[?\]\: Haha you're doing two things at the same time after all. \;) poiuytre\: h12 pancake \[?\]\: Anyway Koreans would cringe if they would see kyu players play with 2 hours on the clock.]W[jg] ;C[pancake \[?\]\: Part of being strong at Baduk is also being able to evaluate and read quickly, not just accurately. GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: but we're not in korea and we don't learn go like koreans Hobbes \[1k\]\: cough...that's why we are not as strong.... cough pancake \[?\]\: But it's weird to compensate our lack of skills by longer thinking times. Don't you think so? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: aww thats true SIscurge \[5d\]\: but the european tournaments have a faster thinking time then koreans? lengjing \[2k\]\: Mieke I agree with you especially in egc lengjing \[2k\]\: we have 2 hours thinking time lengjing \[2k\]\: normally about 1 hour GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: depends - my reading had improved by far due to more thinking time. But as you said my 'fast judgement skills' are pretty bad and don't improve at all because it is not challenged Hobbes \[1k\]\: anyway I think it's nice to have more time, not to become stronger, but to enjoy the game more deeply lengjing \[2k\]\: fast judgement man can online training Uberdude \[3d\]\: when i had a lot of thinking time i beat dinerstein \;-) lengjing \[2k\]\: in byoyomi 5 min 15 stones Hobbes \[1k\]\: after all we do play because we love to think what we think during a game, so why don't make it lasting longer Uberdude \[3d\]\: he could probably give me 3+ stones in a faster game GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: nice quote Hobbes Hobbes \[1k\]\: you'll free to use it, with just a small fee]B[jf] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: \:'D poiuytre\: k14 slack move pancake \[?\]\: Hobbes\: If you think faster, you can think and play twice as much in the same time. \;) Hobbes \[1k\]\: yeah poiuytre\: h12 better pancake \[?\]\: I like thinking long every now and then as well though. lengjing \[2k\]\: b seems in trouble Hobbes \[1k\]\: well I was thinking about examples of 2 people activities that really benefits from lasting longer.... but I think I'll be banned lengjing \[2k\]\: sundenlly Meruem92 \[3d\]\: b doesn't seem too much in trouble to me lengjing \[2k\]\: oh poiuytre\: n15]W[lg] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: n16? thanhphong \[2d\]\: does artem turn into pro? lengjing \[2k\]\: in march 2016 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: he already did thanhphong \[2d\]\: nice GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: this is a short article about that\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/index.html?id=42 thanhphong \[2d\]\: thanks GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: he really deserves it]B[le] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: wie stark bist du Mieke? Zonked \[3d\]\: g15 too slow? Zonked \[3d\]\: feels like b needs to add another move to that group poiuytre\: l13-h12 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: ummm... nich soo stark ^^ Zonked \[3d\]\: sincce b cannot connect to o14 anymore Zonked \[3d\]\: err.. p14* lengjing \[2k\]\: h12? pandalomo \[7k\]\: what was M15 trying to do? Zonked \[3d\]\: h12 is tempting, but I wonder if w just gives up k13? Zonked \[3d\]\: also, even if w merely answer h12 with h11, it builds w center lengjing \[2k\]\: hmm thanhphong \[2d\]\: l14 is in trouble Zonked \[3d\]\: I dont think it can die, but it can probably lose the game lengjing \[2k\]\: too deep invasion? Zonked \[3d\]\: d13 was a bit much too lengjing \[2k\]\: aha lengjing \[2k\]\: I asked why he played d13 lengjing \[2k\]\: d13 e13 lengjing \[2k\]\: white is stronger lengjing \[2k\]\: e14 Zonked \[3d\]\: I think he thought w would get thickness in g15 area when chasing the b invasion, and because of that thickness, if b later asks d13, white might answer it with c12 instead lengjing \[2k\]\: ok thx Zonked \[3d\]\: or maybe he ust htought w would answer with c13 anyways, and he could then e14 to help the top group, and didnt consider that w might e14 instead of cut lengjing \[2k\]\: test Zonked \[3d\]\: difficult to say, but in retrospect I think the exchange looks bad consinder the trouble b is in with the top group lengjing \[2k\]\: understand poiuytre\: h12 necessary move]W[mc] ;C[lengjing \[2k\]\: waw, lengjing \[2k\]\: n17 is better for the fight, I had played n16, Kayres \[2k\]\: l18 what lengjing \[2k\]\: when w k18 Kayres \[2k\]\: wants n15 in sente i guess softy \[1k\]\: that's a Shikshin move I guess]B[kb] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 1\:10h Ilya 1\:25h left softy \[1k\]\: a Kachanovsky move? snowman \[-\]\: shadows of sakata poiuytre\: now h12 no work]W[hd] ;B[ne];W[id];B[md];W[ld];B[me] ;C[Zonked \[3d\]\: that has to be game over Zonked \[3d\]\: b lost so much in sente its not even funny]W[dh] ;B[kl] ;C[Pinkeltje \[14k?\]\: Hm, I think there is still life for b at the top Zonked \[3d\]\: I think not Zonked \[3d\]\: also, if there was, w woudlnt play d12]W[hn] ;B[io] ;C[Di \[6d?\]\: n18 o18 m18 m17 k17 k16 k19 life Pinkeltje \[14k?\]\: Yes. I was starting with k17, but same sequence.]W[fl] ;C[Pinkeltje \[14k?\]\: There is still some trouble if w plays j18 next, but b getting g16 should be enough]B[lk] ;W[mj];B[bi] ;C[Di \[6d?\]\: j18 h17]W[ln] ;C[Pinkeltje \[14k?\]\: Ah, indeed.]B[kn] ;C[Di \[6d?\]\: j18 h17 n19 no, seems w can kill, so no life]W[dj] ;B[mk] ;C[anton007 \[-\]\: seems close]W[nk] ;B[lb];W[lc] ;C[poiuytre\: Ilya did not seeko to the bottom right corner of the white Geert \[?\]\: can b live? Geert \[?\]\: I don't thnk so anton007 \[-\]\: oh anton007 \[-\]\: b is alive Geert \[?\]\: how?]B[jc] ;W[jd] ;C[Geert \[?\]\: now j18 anton007 \[-\]\: yeah anton007 \[-\]\: j18 h17 Kuros \[3k\]\: omg geert groenen Geert \[?\]\: wow Geert \[?\]\: clear Pinkeltje \[14k?\]\: Ha Geert \:) Groeten uit Wageningen. Geert \[?\]\: groeten terug \:) poiuytre\: b live Geert \[?\]\: wat after w n18? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: j18 h17 g18 h18 h19 j19 g19 ?]B[ja] ;W[mb] ;C[Geert \[?\]\: now h19 Geert \[?\]\: and b is dead snowman \[-\]\: yeah alex666 \[5k?\]\: h19 j19 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: ahaha my sequence is bullshit snowman \[-\]\: fundamentals, fundamentals Geert \[?\]\: h19 j19 j18 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: I was like *and then we have a false eye....oh wait...*]B[la] ;W[hc] ;C[snowman \[-\]\: erp... Geert \[?\]\: missed chance carma \[5k\]\: h19 j19 and then? Geert \[?\]\: j18 fightback \[5d\]\: black was alive Meruem92 \[3d\]\: h19 h18?]B[ib] ;C[snowman \[-\]\: or is it a win anyway anton007 \[-\]\: h19 h18 carma \[5k\]\: j18 h18 0 atary for j19 carma \[5k\]\: then? anton007 \[-\]\: b is alive Geert \[?\]\: ok, clear Geert \[?\]\: b is alive \:) anton007 \[-\]\: lol]W[jn] ;B[jm];W[ko];B[in];W[km] ;C[anton007 \[-\]\: b+10?]B[il] ;W[jk];B[jl];W[hm];B[hl];W[gm];B[im];W[kp];B[fm];W[gl];B[gn] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 55min Ilya 1\:10h left]W[mp] ;B[np];W[oo] ;C[kmlck \[-\]\: s1 kills, w needs to defend]B[op] ;W[mq];B[mr];W[lr];B[mo];W[lp] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: there it is]B[rs] ;W[ps];B[sp] ;C[Meruem92 \[3d\]\: who kills what now? kmlck \[-\]\: smart connection by w kmlck \[-\]\: very impressive reading Gabriel \[-\]\: nuuu go Ilya]W[ms] ;C[Gabriel \[-\]\: I want Ilya to win purely because I was in a 48 hour hackathon with a dude called Ilya in my team xDragon \[?\]\: Rooting for the guy who wins all the time is boring kmlck \[-\]\: well some people like playing it safe kissthesky \[2d\]\: wow kissthesky \[2d\]\: B reduced well]B[bh] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: who always wins? Coorchac \[3k\]\: I kmlck \[-\]\: roln ofc]W[bg] ;B[cg] ;C[kmlck \[-\]\: wow c13 xDragon \[?\]\: He's like half a stone stronger than everyone else kmlck \[-\]\: whats next, e10 or sth Meruem92 \[3d\]\: i want artem to overcome all other european pros Meruem92 \[3d\]\: i really like his games x0000 \[-\]\: e10 I guess? kmlck \[-\]\: hard to find a cooler looking move kissthesky \[2d\]\: obviousle Roln must get 2p already ben0 \[6d\]\: Artem is a Demi-God, just after Motoki, our only true God]W[bf] ;C[kmlck \[-\]\: yay nailed it]B[ej] ;W[dk];B[di];W[eg] ;C[Gabriel \[-\]\: I forgot how cool go is]B[ci] ;C[Geert \[?\]\: nice sequence by b kmlck \[-\]\: w center is now a running weak group kmlck \[-\]\: but 3 stone sacrifice wasnt small either ArsenLapin \[1d\]\: sacrificing stones to be cool kmlck \[-\]\: lol kissthesky \[2d\]\: cant ignore E11 cut GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: haha score estimator sais 'weak groups? what weak groups? all points!' kmlck \[-\]\: despite how cool it looks, it looks better for w after g10. no good move for b here]W[gj] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: it just looked cool]B[gi] ;W[hk];B[hi] ;C[Di \[6d?\]\: w+ balafon \[5k\]\: w ahead ? Di \[6d?\]\: slightly Gabriel \[-\]\: is there nothing cool B can do around the L11 region?\:( GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: I bet hes looking for somethin cool there kissthesky \[2d\]\: B has around 65? Zonked \[3d\]\: b also has gote HavucElma \[3d\]\: EL CLASICO kissthesky \[2d\]\: W has around 63,5? kissthesky \[2d\]\: looks even game now kissthesky \[2d\]\: komi 6,5? kissthesky \[2d\]\: 7,5? kissthesky \[2d\]\: 8? kmlck \[-\]\: so, cool move lost the lead* Zonked \[3d\]\: b entitled to some yose because of s8 poiuytre\: w win Zonked \[3d\]\: err.. w* kmlck \[-\]\: only 2 pts Zonked \[3d\]\: sure, but its 2 points, its not like the margin is huge for this game kissthesky \[2d\]\: did someone count? Zonked \[3d\]\: also, f6 grants another point of yose Ephemere \[2d\]\: w ahead by a good margin kissthesky \[2d\]\: difficult to find sente bigger then E11 cut here kissthesky \[2d\]\: I did not count middle points. for W GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Artem 50min - Ilya 56min kissthesky \[2d\]\: so including them it is W +5 maybe GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: both are looking quite tensed kissthesky \[2d\]\: maybe G18 the only here for B?]W[ik] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: H18!]B[hg] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: well kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes IonutC \[5k?\]\: Looks like b won kissthesky \[2d\]\: W has more points kissthesky \[2d\]\: B will win only with brilliant yose]W[kk] ;B[ll];W[fi] ;C[AlphaGo9p \[-\]\: b seemed to be ahead. what was losing move?]B[ei] ;W[pb] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: I think that sequence in left side was not needed Bussi \[5d\]\: M10 is very severe actually kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes pancake \[?\]\: Not smart to play thin against Ilya kissthesky \[2d\]\: that's why I didnt count middle pts for W Di \[6d?\]\: hmm, w missed such big move kissthesky \[2d\]\: I would F12 here]B[lj] ;C[MooDoGo \[2k\]\: does L12 help cutting off g8?]W[li] ;B[kj];W[ii] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes kissthesky \[2d\]\: F10 Kinto \[1d\]\: good Zonked \[3d\]\: threattens to cautpreu h6 stones]B[fj] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: squize stuff softy \[1k\]\: k11 might be a good idea]W[ki] ;B[nj];W[mi];B[nl];W[ok] ;C[Zonked \[3d\]\: s19 big softy \[1k\]\: he played l11 Zonked \[3d\]\: could play it right away actually]B[nm] ;C[Zonked \[3d\]\: wut.. kissthesky \[2d\]\: ohhh kissthesky \[2d\]\: W lost Kinto \[1d\]\: oh Bussi \[5d\]\: it was sente to kill... carma \[5k\]\: b q7 is big enough? kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes Q7 enough to win Goyer \[?\]\: sorry-to kill what you mean? Zonked \[3d\]\: the whole w dragon kissthesky \[2d\]\: B can reduce more first Zonked \[3d\]\: huge blunder by w to allow this to happen kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes F11 stuff was slow]W[ng] ;B[pm];W[ra];B[rd];W[mn] ;C[thanhphong \[2d\]\: chinese rule kissthesky \[2d\]\: h18 thanhphong \[2d\]\: s.e not work]B[nn] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: or this Kinto \[1d\]\: b can reduce w in middle i think kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes\\ kissthesky \[2d\]\: l13 thanhphong \[2d\]\: w still wins by komi thanhphong \[2d\]\: as my counting kissthesky \[2d\]\: what komi here? AlphaGo9p \[-\]\: Slam2, who looks more like a winner? kissthesky \[2d\]\: W around 67 + komi GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: hmmm thanhphong \[2d\]\: i'm pretty sure w will win pancake \[?\]\: w+3-4 ish? Geser \[-\]\: W+ less than komi GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Ilya looks a lil more stressed while Artem is like 'I'm reading everything out here' kissthesky \[2d\]\: yes, looks W + less than komi Geser \[-\]\: there is no translation for board 2? kissthesky \[2d\]\: but depends on G18 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: translation? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: you mean live-stream? Geser \[-\]\: +]W[gf] ;B[nr];W[ns];B[or];W[os];B[gb];W[hb];B[ha];W[gd];B[ga];W[fa];B[ia];W[ol];B[om] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: as the internet connection is not that good here we prefere to stream only board one]W[fh] ;C[GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: https\://www.twitch.tv/grandslamboard1]B[gg] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: N19 kissthesky \[2d\]\: Q2 kissthesky \[2d\]\: L13 thanhphong \[2d\]\: roln's moves is very tricky kissthesky \[2d\]\: K11? poiuytre\: w +3 kissthesky \[2d\]\: what komi? kissthesky \[2d\]\: 8? kissthesky \[2d\]\: 6,5? thanhphong \[2d\]\: 7.5 i guess GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Ruleset\: Chinese rules, 7.5 Komi Kinto \[1d\]\: komi 7.5]W[fg] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: thanks]B[ss] ;W[qr];B[sq] ;C[thanhphong \[2d\]\: ha \:v Kinto \[1d\]\: n19 thanhphong \[2d\]\: t1 is funny GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: Ilya was aiming for l13]W[qs] ;B[kg];W[kh] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: W won 100% kissthesky \[2d\]\: nothing here can happen anymore kissthesky \[2d\]\: W should F6 and N8 anton007 \[-\]\: w+2-3]B[ah] ;W[ma];B[mf];W[mg];B[ig];W[he];B[ag];W[af];B[jh] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: no! kissthesky \[2d\]\: B wins! kissthesky \[2d\]\: ahhh, S1 stones Kashaka \[3k\]\: W has komi 7,5 kissthesky \[2d\]\: no, B loses \:) Syder \[8k?\]\: SE says b win, so b win thanhphong \[2d\]\: se is not accurate for chinese rule GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: SE is the one and only! xD thanhphong \[2d\]\: don't know why pygmyshrew \[3d\]\: se is nothing kissthesky \[2d\]\: B around 71 W around 73,5 thanhphong \[2d\]\: did they finish the game?]W[ji] ;B[ml];W[sb];B[sc] ;C[balafon \[5k\]\: b+ 2 or 3 points it seems]W[qa] ;B[sa] ;C[balafon \[5k\]\: er no kissthesky \[2d\]\: obviously B has more ko threats Kashaka \[3k\]\: Thats all, W wins kissthesky \[2d\]\: but no ko balafon \[5k\]\: w+ indeed]W[jg] ;B[hh];W[sr] ;C[pancake \[?\]\: I have w+4.5 on a quick count]B[so] ;W[hf];B[ke] ;C[balafon \[5k\]\: yes w+3-4]W[jj] ;C[Kotonoha \[3d\]\: wow Syder \[8k?\]\: wut kissthesky \[2d\]\: fatality!]B[fd] ;C[Kotonoha \[3d\]\: Artem Vs ilya !!!! Kotonoha \[3d\]\: classical KGS awesome game !!! mihi \[?\]\: couldn't white tenuki here? vg \[?\]\: 0,5]W[ec] ;C[Pingu007 \[2d\]\: h10?]B[jh] ;W[hj];B[jg];W[eh] ;C[carma \[5k\]\: yep. was sente for b]B[oe] ;C[Kotonoha \[3d\]\: I think it would be helpful when act with 3-3 mihi]W[sb] ;B[lm];W[kn];B[sa];W[gk];B[lf];W[sb];B[rr];W[rs] ;C[Kotonoha \[3d\]\: this 4 games are very KGS !]B[sa] ;W[go];B[fo];W[sb];B[hs];W[gr];B[sa];W[fn];B[en];W[sb];B[nb];W[na];B[sa];W[rg];B[sg];W[sb];B[hr];W[is];B[sa];W[rj];B[ri];W[sb];B[ob];W[oa];B[sa];W[rl];B[sj];W[sb];B[nh];W[ni];B[sa] ;C[kissthesky \[2d\]\: W wins ko and game GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: game ended Dangerous \[2d\]\: Artem made a lot of progress recently no ? Meruem92 \[3d\]\: and how did it end? Lork \[3k\]\: w+res? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: ehm...as they don't count I guess ilya resigned but they're not talking english...igive me a second to ask \;) gorussia \[3k\]\: lol carma \[5k\]\: =) GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: w+res Meruem92 \[3d\]\: w00t Meruem92 \[3d\]\: gj artem!! balafon \[5k\]\: congrats Tioma Geser \[-\]\: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gorussia \[3k\]\: artem fanbase is growing bigger \:-) kissthesky \[2d\]\: thanks balafon \[5k\]\: it has always been big \;o) kissthesky \[2d\]\: GrandSlam2, thank you amigo lalka\: слава україні!!! Meruem92 \[3d\]\: i'm artem's fan since 2010 GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: you're very welcome \:) balafon \[5k\]\: thanks for relaying yes GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: was fun to watch AlphaGo9p \[-\]\: unfair pairing - they should use rating AlphaGo9p \[-\]\: quoterfinal artem-ilya would never happened hokusai2 \[2k\]\: In the end, there can be only one...\;) Geser \[-\]\: in this tournament - the one who lose - don't go to next round? GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: General information about the GrandSlam\: http\://www.eurogofed.org/EuropeanGrandPrix/grandslam2016.html GrandSlam2 \[-\]\: its a knock-out tournament Ishii \[2k?\]\: yeah! congrats Artem! \:D Ishii \[2k?\]\: Alphago9p, since when life is fair? \:) AlphaGo9p \[-\]\: fair point ) Sonka \[2k\]\: does anybody know why this pairing? Liso66 \[?\]\: btw artem is last but ine by rating from these 8 Liso66 \[?\]\: *one tymak \[-\]\: he actually have rating 2700, due reste after win pro q Liso66 \[?\]\: Shikshin Ilja 2763, Lisy Pavol 2711, Dinerstein Alexandr 2709, Surma Mateusz 2706, Jabarin Ali 2693, Taranu Catalin 2677, Kachanovskyi Artem 2663, Mitic Dusan 2619 Liso66 \[?\]\: is he officially promoted now? Sonka \[2k\]\: im not sure if artem already has 2700... Liso66 \[?\]\: (btw Ten has to have 2700 too! ) tymak \[-\]\: not sure, when exactly get reset, I just assume it would be logical now, when pro q was held in order to get 5th pro player to grandslam Liso66 \[?\]\: Sonka it is by drawing and probably there will be new drawing before next round Liso66 \[?\]\: tymak I agree - but telling what is fair is not so clear if you look at (non artificial) ratings Sonka \[2k\]\: co je drawing? Liso66 \[?\]\: myslel som tahat los Liso66 \[?\]\: neviem ci je uz nalosovany pavuk, ale domnievam sa, ze nie]W[re] )